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Weekend review part II

Posted: August 26, 2011 in Field Reports

So after I leave humiliatrix, I do a couple of approaches.  I walk downstairs near the bar and spot this young girl wearing a white shirt.  I tell kickbomber I could probably get it and then just go in.  Instantly, she’s all over me, hugging me, etc.  She says that she’s in the peace corp and leaving in March so she’s already talking about future plans.  Her friends are just standing there and end up leaving.  I take her all the way up to the fourth floor hiphop room and we dance a bit.  We go sit down for awhile and I start joking about her making me breakfast.  She accepts it but her friend is texting her shit like “are you ok? I hope he’s nice” and I just make a joke out of it.  So I tell her to text her friend back..forgot what I said but it’s like “Hi, this is 2track, she’s going home with me tonight”.  Her friend texts back “lol, yea right she’s going home with me, meet me by the sofa”. 

A key point happened in that I tried to put in some sexual innuendo and she says something like, “I don’t believe in sex before marriage!” I just start laughing and acting like I was going to walk away.   But we still sit there, and she’s agreeing to make me breakfast but then thoughts about her friend keep coming up.  I just keep pushing the issue and I could see she was really considering it. 

We go back downstairs and go outside so I could find a cigarette to smoke.  Her friends then come outside and I get introduced to the girl I was texting with.  I’m still planting the thought of her leaving, but I was much cooler about it.  I switch gears a bit, trying to convince the whole group to go to another bar and they agree.  kickbomber comes out and at this point, it looks like she’s going to leave with her friends.  But her and the potential cockblocker have a 20 minute conversation.  When it’s over, the friend tells me, “I’m gonna let you spend more time with my friend, take good care of her, alright?” and that was it.  We walk towards my place. 

We get in, I grab two beers and we just sit on my bed for awhile.   Of course I start making moves until some of her clothes are off.  I’ve got my pants off too.  I make a move to my drawer for a condoms and here’s where it gets interesting.

“I’ve never…done anything like this before”

In the back of my head, I was like GTFOH but honestly, she convinced me she was a virgin.  Either that or she’s a really great liar.  And I didn’t care to break her virginity at like 4am Sunday morning.  She’s very apologetic about the whole thing and I just try to put on the act that I didn’t care about it that much..but she could tell I was mad a bit.  Later on, I finger her a bit, she gives me a sloppy handjob, and was going to go down on me but started laughing the minute she put it in her mouth.  I don’t know, I found the whole thing kind of bizzare considering that she left with me at 3am and should know what’s up.   But she’s from that sort of big family and probably isn’t as experienced as most 22 year old girls.     She was telling me that it was the first time she ever left with a guy in a club.  I fall asleep around 6 and I thought she was sleeping too.  She leaves early though, like 6:30.  I think she was a bit embarrased.   She’s still texting me as of this writing but I have no idea if I want to see her again

Weekend review part I

Posted: August 23, 2011 in Field Reports

Went out with Jon on Friday night.  What can I write about? Basically nothing.  I hooked pretty much nothing at all.  I think it was because I went to this really chic bar at first and got blown out plenty.  Maybe I was psyched out the whole night? Who knows.  All I know is that we went to this other place and I can safely say that the women there were more open.  I’ve gotta try the place on a weeknight.  I hooked this one girl from Jersey City, Jon wings and gets a number, I decide it’s not worth it so pass up on my girl. 

Went out with Kickbomber saturday night.  This night went much much better.  I can’t remember the first girl I hooked but at least girls were polite about it. 

Kickbomber is with his girl after he arrives and I end up meeting up with him upstairs.   A memorable moment was that this Scottish girl was kinoing me back as I opened her up really aggressively.  She says it’s her birthday so I say something about a birthday kiss and go for it, denied.  She’s giving me the ‘go back to her friends’ thing, starts to walk away, but then comes in to kiss me.  I denied her.  Something roosh wrote inspired me.  Of course, this wasn’t the scenario he laid out about girls just saying “I gotta get back to my friends”, this had obvious sexual undertones.  But if she can’t stay and talk to me for 3 minutes, forget about it.  Similarly, I did that to most of the short term sets tonight. 

 I bet kickbomber I could go downstairs and bring somebody back up.  So I go downstairs and spot this brunette girl and she opens up really warmly.  Instant kino, small talk.  But she’s asking for a shot like immediately.  A red flag goes off in my head like ‘wtf’ but I change the subject to more rapport stuff.  She asks if I want to go upstairs so I grab her hand and we go up there.  On our way up, she’s telling me why she’s here: she was interviewing for some sort of ‘humiliatrix job’.  And she was getting text messages from some guy telling her to meet her somewhere.  I find it interesting but that’s TWO red flags in the span of five minutes but it’s still some real sexual tension going on between me and her.  She mentions the shot again as we’re upstairs near the bar, specifically bodyshots.  First off, I’m thinking “FUCK” because I don’t know how much shots are at this place.  And at the same time, I was feeling a bit used.  Anyway, as we’re waiting, she’s like

Her: You ever fuck a girl named [hername]

Me: yea

Her: I’ve fucked plenty of guys named [myname]

She’s still insisting on this ‘humiliatrix’ job she’s ‘interviewing’ for.  I think it’s just some guy she wants to meet.  I guide her to the stage with my hand and the guy is telling her to find the bouncer.  She’s standing by the stage for a good 5 minutes and I just say goodbye.  She grabs me and we kiss a little but I watch her dancing later with some other girls who basically look like DJ groupies. 

*Update: tentatively meeting her Thursday, I’m taking her straight to my house.  She mentions via text that we still have to do body shots so I’m just getting a bottle of tequila and some lime and taking it from there. 

to be continued…

This was a night of drunken debauchery.  Everything seemed so easy, no real blowouts just a few short fizzled out conversations between the three girls that hooked below.  I would have helped myself towards the end if I would have paced my drinking a bit.

First girl that opens relatively easy is this brunette girl.  I just tap her, forget what I say, but I look her straight in the eye.  This is one approach where I think eye contact made the difference because it’s like my eyes stopped her from just going right past me.  Maybe that’s why I felt so at ease last night? I don’t know.  The problem was that she was kind of drunk and wanted to dance and wouldn’t talk to me.  Another problem is that she was an absolute dork, dancing and doing mime like moves and the robot.  I asked her name and she kept ignoring me.  But she kept grabbing me too.  I was a bit confused.  I should have escalated harder because she wasn’t giving me anything verbal to work with, just physicality.  I should have gone for my standard necking thing.  She sees her friends dancing and joins them in their circle, and basically just dismisses me.

I head over to the bar area and there’s this latin girl standing next to two friends, a male and a female.  We look at each other and she opens me, looking at me really flirtatious.   We talk for a few.  I find out she’s taking a cross country trip and is stopping in ny.  At one point, she dismisses her friends and says something like “I’m with him” so I buy her a drink after that.  We go out to dance and have a dance-to-nowhere.  She disappears after that.   Again, playing it safe and should have gone for the neck.

I’m standing around and some Asian girl takes ice and puts it down my shirt.  I’m like “You’re just trying to talk to me” and she’s all like “maybe”.  I find out she’s Korean and we just talk and joke around for awhile.  I go for the kiss as we’re standing up and it’s good.  The thing is, at this point, I’m kind of drunk and forgot her name even though at one point she let me see her driver’s license.  She got pissed and I just apologized for it and made out with her some more.  Her name becomes an ongoing joke in addition to some other stuff.  We end up on the couch and she’s making out pretty passionately with me and I’m thinking “SNL, SNL”.  But things started to unravel a bit.  First off, she’s there with like four other girls.  When we were standing up, her friend came by to “check on her” and she told her that she was fine.  When we were on the couch, her friend checked up on her and then either took her bag or the bag she was looking for.  Whatever it was, it kind of killed the vibe from her being in the moment to her being all like “I’ve gotta go”.  She must have said it like 10 times in between kissing me.  She was saying it even while being on top of me kissing me and it’s like WTF.   On the couch, I think I reveal myself a little too much.  Mark Manson talks about vulnerability a lot and I was just telling her that I’m kinda sick of random hookups and I’m looking for a connection.  She actually says something like “I can tell you do this alot” or something of that sort.  Then, for whatever reason, I tell her that my last girlfriend was Japanese.  This kind of kills the vibe additionally for me because I could see how her body language reacted to that, even though I was drunk.   So vulnerability…a good thing but it just has to be used correctly.    We get into some argument about something..fuck I don’t remember.  And she starts slapping me and I’m just laughing at it and telling her to do it again.  Then we start kissing again.  Finally, one of her friends is all like “We’re leaving, are you staying?” and she’s like “No, I’m going”.  It’s like 3am at this point.

I do another set and this girl is being sort of an attention whore when her friends get there and they start dancing on the couches.   Oh well

I’m walking and hear this conversation going on where this girl gets hung up on.  So I neg her a little bit and we walk and laugh about it together.  This girl was like a PUA because everything I asked her, I had to “guess” the answer.  Eventually, she knows a little about me and vice versa and I go for the pull to a bar near my place.  No-go, it’s raining out and she wants to go home.  I get the number but she walks off all quickly so I don’t think I’ll follow up with it

The Weekend

Posted: July 27, 2011 in Field Reports

The.Weekend.Sucked.

Did a lot of street approaching with M on Friday night after going to a bar that I was hyped about and being rather disappointed by it.  Later on, Kickbomber joined us.  I actually had a girl get mad at me for doing my “Herd…Hot Nerd” opener to her.  She took off her glasses because she didn’t want to be perceived as that.  Hilarious.  I’ve never had that happen.  Later on, she started insulting me.  I left.

The other notable approach that night was this kinda thick chick at NMP at about 2am.  I was just sitting there with Kickbomber and observing shit.  I was telling him how the one black guy in this large group wasn’t hooking with the thick girl.  I opened her about the situation and she hooks in, instant touching, and the like.  She wanted to dance at first but I didn’t really want to.  I was already sweaty and just wanted to chill so we talked.  I found out she was from NC, and she actually asked “Are you a Christian?” and was complaining about the guys in NYC.  Her ultra entitlement mentality turned me off.  She was in a group with this one Jersey Shore looking dude who was dominating stuff and I found out that they all work at the same law firm.  I saw him making out with the cute one in the group and he would occasionally dance with the thick girl.  I grabbed her and started dancing with her after awhile and she goes back to her group a few times.  I honestly think in retrospect that she was gunning for the Jersey Shore guy but he was already totally locked in with the other girl.  I get her number sometime, I don’t even know why. Later on, while we’re outside, I meet her other co-workers and she’s all freaking out about where Jersey Shore and the girl went.   I thought she was just jealous of the two of them getting together and wanted to break it up.  She cops an attitude with me, I forgot why.  I cop an attitude because I just wasn’t in the mood to deal with a flaky girl who is probably like a 5 on my scale.  She met the minimum threshold for a one night stand, but that’s it.  Eventually it ends, and I just go home.

Saturday, I met up with Jon, a guy I met on the practicalpickup forums.  We go to this bar I’ve never been to.  I hook my first set, this Italian girl and her friend just by going direct on both of them.  Jon joins in a bit later, but his girl leaves after awhile, leaving me and my girl.  The dynamic was pretty crappy, with me standing up and her sitting down at the bar.  And honestly, I was kind of bored.  But after about 20 minutes, I tell her that we’re going downstairs and invite her and she declines.  I ask for a date and she says that she’s “seeing somebody”.  Set to nowhere.

Later on, we meet up with Geo at NMP.  We all are hooking absolutely nothing.  We then go to try our luck at some streetgame in the ludlow area.  Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

One thing about this weekend that I can learn from is that I don’t like going out with more than one wing.  Two wings are just too many agendas going at the same time. And the vibe just totally has to be about fun & women, nothing else.   Also, I think I’m just going to start working on my street gaming the way M does.  Anyway, got an internet date tomorrow provided that I don’t have to work extra hours.

Thursday night with M

Posted: July 22, 2011 in Field Reports

Went out with M kinda late.  I went to the gym and met up with him around 10:30 or so

We go around the Ludlow area and do some street approaches.  Nothing is really hooking for either of us.  I told him, “it’s too fucking hot NOT to go direct, so that’s what I’m doing”.   The one girl I hooked into a 20 minute conversation said something like “I don’t date” or something.

We bounce to a taco place and M talks to this girl sitting by herself.  For me, this was a learning opportunity because I realized he wasn’t doing anything THAT special, just comfort building and asking shit like  “what kind of music do you like?” It’s the little things though, like touching that I saw him do.   His escalation is gradual, and that’s what I’m going to start doing instead of trying to force make outs and stuff.   Being that M and I are both black, and both game white girls, comfort game has to be good.   But context is important too, he doesn’t game in clubs at all.  Nightclubs are generally full of ADD girls, there’s more of an urgency to get physical faster or they are going to quickly leave, especially if there’s a ton of other options for them in the club.  Regardless of that,  I’ve definitely gotta start doing more random approaches on the street or in stores, there’s just so much potential there that I’m not tapping into.

Anyway, he bounces her and I follow along to 2a.  I run out to the ATM to get some money and then talk to the bouncer for a sec.  I see this cute girl smoking a weird cigarette so I bum one off of her and we talk for awhile.  I thought she was alone but her date came outside and we talked about all sorts of random shit for a sec.  I go back in, go upstairs where M and his girl are sitting and order a drink.  About 2 minutes later, he’s bouncing her to his house.

I meet some random guys in the bar and try to get them to go to Lit with me.  They are from out of town but they don’t really follow me.

rooftop adventures

Posted: July 17, 2011 in Field Reports

So I finally get to a rooftop bar this summer.   I roll with Greek and we first try to get into this one rooftop bar he was telling me about that is supposedly really good.  We fail.  We then go to a place I’ve frequented since I started gaming.

We get in, and it’s not even 10pm but it’s crowded enough.  We sit around and talk by the bar for a bit.  I notice this really tall blonde girl, gorgeous coming near me.  She’s asking to get near the bar so I give her space.  I do my ol “And I’ll have a rum and coke please” and it works.  We get into a conversation for a little bit but she’s buying drinks for her 4 friends.  I agree, to my detriment, to get her the next time.  So time passes as I’m talking to other people and she spots me and I do end up getting her a drink.  Me and her four friends go outside to smoke and I find out that she’s married and so are the people she’s with.  They were just visiting from Ohio and are easily in that 40+ range.  After awhile, I just know it’s not going anywhere so I just bounce.

There were  a few sets to nowhere including this Irish group of friends.  But me and Greek do stumble upon three doctors.  I’m flirting with two of them and he’s flirting with the  other one.  I finally just take out my phone for the two girls and tell them to key their number in.

Besides that, it was a rather underwhelming night for both of us.   There was a Canadian girl who I grinded with, kissed her neck and all but her friend was standing right there and cockblocked at first.   Greek goes in to handle her but in retrospect, I should have handled her to make her more comfortable with me dancing really sexually with her friend.

I barely remember most of the conversations, some were so short they are not even worth writing about.

Thurs and Fri

Posted: July 16, 2011 in Field Reports

Where to start…

Well, I had my best friend in town, and we hung out Thursday night in BK.  I went back to the same hipster dive bar I discovered last week as well as Brooklyn Bowl.  First off, every Thursday I might make it a habit to go out to Brooklyn Bowl.  Questlove was DJ’ing and I loved the vibe there.

Before we even get to the place, we hook a group of 3 black girls.  The vibe is going good between me and the one I was with, so it looked good.  I bailed out early though, I wasn’t really feeling them.

I hooked this tall really sexy black girl that I regret not going after and reopening a bit later.

There were random groups that hooked throughout the night: group of Japanese people, two Polish girls, and a few others, but that was it.

Friday was my party.  So I was kind of stressed out from the long day.  The good news is that it was a success.  It was definitely popping by 12am.  Also, the Bulgarian came through and bought wine.  It was a nice mix of people I go out with, work with, and have known for a long time.   There were a few opportunities to game, but I honestly was in this whole ‘being a connector’ kind of mode where I was just introducing people and stuff.

Only thing I was disappointed in is that it peaked too early.  It was probably officially dead at like 1:30AM and people wanted to go other places.  So me and my best friend do a quick clean up and head to one of my local bars.

I get in, see a girl with short hair and try to talk to her.  She blows me off.  The good thing though was that there were a group of two Greek girls that were fun.  Me and my best friend end up dancing and hanging with them the whole night.  I get a kiss at the end, nothing else though.  I could tell she was turned on when we were dancing with each other though.  I missed the opportunity to either get really sexual or blown out.

Was out with Rex and a couple of his friends.  A friend of his knew of a pretty good bar in WilliamsBurg so we went.  I get in and am amazed at the quality of women there.  In the city, sometimes you’ve got to deal with the ugly fat friend but in this particular hipster bar, that just didn’t exist.  The friends were more than ok most of the time.

First group of the night was two girls, one German and one Asian.  I lock in pretty well with the German but my friend doesn’t really feel any attraction for the Asian girl.  I cold read the German perfectly, do some role playing, and it seems like it’s going pretty well.  The Asian girl is getting chatted up by some Italian guy and she tells the German girl, “he’s from Italy”.  What ends up fucking it up is that I wasn’t engaging her anymore at that point and my wing was talking to her.  I end up standing near the Asian girl so we end up chatting.  The German girl’s body language is really stating the obvious that she was into this Italian dude so I don’t bother with her anymore.

There were a few short sets here and there, no major blowouts because girls at this bar seem kind of open to being flirted with.  I think I was “on” though, just coming up with random flirty shit to say.

I’m standing around and some short brunette girl takes a look at me so obviously so I just stick my hand out.  She hooks well.  What fucked it up is my friend creeped her friend out and I could tell.  They both liked me, I number close one of them.  The winging shit of pickup is so messed up because guys assume that they can or should wing in every situation.

I go into the main area and see this really good looking two set of girls.  One I open direct with, it hooks really nicely.  I think it hooked well because I was really HONEST, the girl was banging.  The other girl is attractive as well, and takes more of an interest in me.  We’re dancing a little bit and we’re doing this thing.  She excitedly jumps on me screaming “its my birthday!” and I lift her up like three times.  I end up messing up, getting too serious commenting about how I don’t like high 5’s or something.  It was all positive and I turned it all negative.  She goes back to her friend.  I re-enter a bit later to no avail.  What she told me during that was that she was driving, I should have asked for a ride back to my place.  Also, she could have used more aggression on my part.  I went for the kiss, no-go.  I should have went for the neck.

We go to this rave and just have a ball.  First off, I’ve never raved before and I figured out how to do it easily. You just jump up a lot, there’s no rhythm to it at all.  The first girl I approach is this Asian girl who actually kisses me on the lips before she ‘gets back to her friends’.   I try to approach her later but I couldn’t get anything going.

The only thing that hooked was this Finnish girl who was playing with the hula hoops.  I think I open her saying that I can hula hoop better than her.  So I play with it and obviously don’t know what I’m doing, but she gets a laugh at it.  Right away, instant kino and eye contact.  We build up some rapport but then she goes for her glow sticks like she wants to play with them more than she wants to talk to me.  I just start kissing her neck and she starts kissing back.  She stops, says something like “I don’t really know you” or whatever so I leave.  I try to talk dirty to her but that doesn’t work either.

We ended up leaving at 7am and all basically were struggling to stay awake on the train.  I had an awesome time, discovered a bar I will frequent in Williamsburg, and raved for the first time.

Out with kickbomber on Friday.  We were just at the same place the same night.  I think my night went…ok.  I guess my expectations are way up since I’ve been having things happen so easily lately.  But the  two highlights were two girls who could barely understand me.  And between these two girls, there were some rejections.

One was this Swiss girl.  I approached and got her to dance with me.  I then isolated her to smoke together.  What ended up happening is that we went to sit down, I was going for the kiss and getting rejected.  Some German guy interrupts and basically controls it.  I was honestly getting sick of her and didn’t like her that much so I got up and left.  I tried to re-enter later to bum a cigarette off of her but that didn’t work.  Oh well.

Another was this Finish girl.  I approached on the dance floor but noticed that she was rejecting guys left and right who would just assume she wanted to dance.  But I noticed she wasn’t a good dancer anyway so I just said something to her.  I then told her that I couldn’t hear her so we needed to sit down.  So we sit down for awhile, get up go dance, and her friend she came with is sticking her tounge down some guys’s throat.  I couldn’t really get her to follow me upstairs because she didn’t want to leave her friend.  After awhile, I got annoyed with it even though we ended up making out later.  I make the conversation kind of sexual, and I hear from her something alluding to the fact that she’s not down to go any further than just kissing.  I leave.  She was annoying me because we couldn’t understand each other most of the time.

Foreign girls are overrated.  And tonight, I’m going to work consciously on my vocal tonality and projecting it from the chest.

7/5

I was heading home from work yesterday on the 6 train and ran into this cute blonde girl in a black dress.  I wasn’t going to even approach, but she got off on the same stop.  I just open with “hey, do you know where I can get a good slice of pizza?” She says no, she just moved here two days ago.  As we walk up the stairs, I just say fuckit and go direct with “I was just thinking of something to say because you’re cute and I wanted to meet you, I’m J”.  We shake hands and I ask where she’s moved from.  She says Austin, I talk about Texas for a bit but then it fizzles out after she says “I’m going this way”.  I’m like “Me too, I’m not following you or anything”.  But she’s trying to cut the convo short and was like “nice meeting you”.  I passively-aggressively say “Well, you didn’t really meet me”.  Bad move.  I gotta learn to just embrace the rejection instead of being all angry about it.   And definitely cold-read after the opener a bit more.

So it’s Wednesday today, and  Lunchtime girl from Friday night was on my mind.   I texted her randomly at about 10am:”Are you at work today?”

She gets back to me at 3:30, “I am sorry for the late response.  I have a new boss this week that I’ve been showing the ropes so I haven’t had time to take lunch.  Maybe you’ll be around next week?”

Also, I wanted to see if my cute co-worker would be down to eat lunch so I just im’ed her on office communicator semi indirectly like “what do you guys usually do for lunch?” I’d almost rather prefer that I’d meet her with another co-worker.  She tells me, then I just ask if she wants to meet at the cafeteria and she says she’s busy but maybe another time.